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The deposit for Ardbol Globo S.L. (setup company part 2)

The next step in setting up Ardbol globo is for Tibi b.v. to get a NIF. Tibi b.v. will be the investor of the company so it is going to own  50% of Ardbol shares. We tried to do this online, but that didn't work out. The online form needed a passport number from a Spanish passport. 

So Tibor needed to go to the Spanish consulate in Amsterdam. As getting the NIF is an important part of finishing the deal he has made 3 appointments at the Spanish consulate in Amsterdam. Two because he needs a NIF for tibi bv but to get that he needs a NIF for himself (as we know now this is not true, see part 4 for this). And it was not clear if both could be done in one meeting. As there was no information on the website about what documents are needed and the only response Tibor got, after requesting more information by e-mail,  was ‘read the website’ and setting up a meeting can only be done six weeks down the road, he made one extra meeting to be sure.

When tibi b.v. gets the NIF we could open a bank account for the new company, in order to do the necessary deposit of 3.000 euros, and could setup the company being owned by Maaike and tibi b.v..

Since these appointments at the consulate are in June, and the first time we will go to Spain after that is August, when we also want to sign the contract, we contacted some Spanish banks to find out if we could open the account online from Holland so we could to it after the June appointments. It didn't seem possible.

The first week of May we also went to Spain to show Maaikes parents the village. We went to a bank in Miranda de Ebro to see how far we would come to opening an account without Tibi b.v.'s NIF, or to see what we could arrange so that we could do the rest online, once the NIF is there. 

We told the bank employee we had to open an account for a new company and she said in clear English (!), you have to do a lot of steps first. And we said a `gestor` told us, opening the account IS the next step. But they insisted and said: 'no go to a `gestor`'.
Luckily there are a lot of `gestors`, which are a kind of bookkeeper, one being only 4 streets away. We went there, our kids following us asking what we are doing. We tried to explain it but it is all kind of difficult to understand, they did got the message that it was somehow important.

When we talked to the `gestor` she told us we needed to go back to the bank. And luckily she was really helpful so she proposed to call the bank first to explain. The problem was that we asked to open an account but we needed to do a deposit to open an account!

Unfortunately we did not bring our NIE forms. And apparently only the number or a digital copy is not enough. So we went back the next day to do the deposit. We asked if we could transfer it online, because we thought we couldn't pin so much money. Yes we could, but then we would have to come back next day before the transfer would be done. Our experience is it would be there in about 15 minutes so we tried it and would come back.

We got the bank number and went to our favorite bar in Miranda de Ebro to do the transfer and wait. We both did a transfer of 1.500 euros. Unfortunately my transfer was rejected after half an hour, I tried again because I thought I did something wrong, but again it was rejected. I called my bank to ask what was wrong and they said it is not a correct number. An IBAN lookup showed it was valid but maybe its some kind of intern bank account. Getting into a bit of panic Maaike thought, maybe check how much money we can pin. It turned out to be 5.000 euro in a week.

So we pinned 3.000 euros and brought them back to the bank. There we needed to fill in a lot of forms and we got a letter in return with proof of the deposit. The letter we needed for the next quest. With all the hassle we ended up with a deposit made from Tibor and Maaike and not tibi b.v. but we expected to be able to correct that later in the process.


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